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themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 16:10

Euro 2008 Football Comp
 
hi guys just wanted to run something by you that i am very interested in doing.

what i am looking to do is start with a bank of £25 and place one bet per day (everyday) at £5.00 (so we have a starting bank of 5 bets)


we will all work together to try and find the best value bet for that day, i will put up different markets and would like you all to give ur views on the markets available for that day

then once everyone has added their input we will take out the 3 most popular selections and we will take a vote to find our "bet of the day"

once euro 2008 has finished any money that is in the bank will go into a prizepool for a stt/mtt where anyone can join who added something to the challenge

so for example lets say after the final of euro 2008 we have a bank of £95 then this £95 will be added to a stt/mtt where anyone who took part in this challenge can pay $5 to enter

lets just say we get 12 people from here who make a contribution to the discussion then that will be 12 x $5 plus $190 from the euro2008 betting, givng us a total of $250 prizepool

all bets will be placed by me, i am putting up the £25, once its gone its gone (but we wont have 5 losing bets 8-P)

are you guys intersted in taking part?

thnx in advance

Tony2005 May 31st, 2008 16:13

Superb idea...........
 
Just what we need to get interested in the competition...

A great gesture which im sure will attract plenty of footie fans off the forum..Thanks m8..........:clap::clap:

Once we get going i will make it a sticky in the footie section..

themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 16:18

cheerz mate
 
im looking to call it "talksport vs the bookies" challenge is to end euro 2008 in profit, then all have a good friendly game of poker after it

i do this on another forum, we started it at the start of last season and we all added £25 (23 of us altogether) so we started with a bank of £575 and we placed a £50 single every single saturday, and once we built are bank up we started placing £100 and sometimes £200 singles

we ended the season with £7042 and we just divided it up between ourselves

2 guys dissappeared b4 the season ended so it was divid up between 21 of us where we all got £335 each 8-P

was a good laugh over the course of the season

themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 16:40

if there is enough support for it, then i will start a new thread entitled "talksport vs the bookies" and will put all the info everyone needs to know on it

hopefully we can get a few interested

bennythedip2 May 31st, 2008 16:57

...
 
Yes Great Idea, :clap: I'm up for that....glk "man"o:D

Part-Timer May 31st, 2008 17:04

I'll try anything for a bit of fun |8)|

only1herbie May 31st, 2008 17:13

i will be in

Tonga May 31st, 2008 17:35

Yes, I'm game - not sure if I can add value to the discussions, but you have my support. :clap:

bally73 May 31st, 2008 17:45

yep i'm in :clap::clap: good idea gives us something to keep us interested

TheCaptain May 31st, 2008 17:55

Yep - Fantastic idea mate to brighten up and keep an interest in the tourney

I'm in

:)

TheShark72 May 31st, 2008 21:34

Count me in....sounds good!

themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 21:56

absolute magic
 
ill get a thread up later toniht or tomorrow morning on what i am looking for from u guys

think tony is going to make it a sticky which is good (cheerz m8)

look out for he thread entitled "talksport vs the bookies"

lets get our heads together and bash the bookies

Pkrplaya May 31st, 2008 21:59

themanwiththeknow
 
Happy to let you do your thing here until money gets involved, so a warning to anyone getting financialy involved in this, be careful as hes a known welcher,who has been known not to pay up.Various usernames on other forums include mystery, laddiesking, betdevil, goonerz and loads more. I personally would not trust you Shaun, but its up to others to make there mind up, just dont want to see good people on here get ripped off. You can understand why im saying this as its a good community and i want to protect that. Feel free to do whatever you want man and the rest of you lot. Alot of you probably know all this anyway, but just incase.

Explain if you need to,your views on this, but please keep the abuse out of it. Like i said happy for you to do your thing on here but i class alot of people on here as mates and feel i should speak up just so everyone knows what they might be getting into, i know you havent asked for any money but people will no doubt offer to chip in.

Please dont insult my intelligence by coming back with a load of lies, just be honest and i cant see there being any problems.

themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 22:01

??????????????
 
for a start it doesnt cost anyone a penny

im paying for all the bets

and as for the rest of everything u said :h?: :h?: :h?: :h?:


"please keep the abuse out of this" ?

tell me one time i have ever abused anyone on this forum??

i guarentee you cant!

and i dont want money off anyone, its a poxy £25 if we lose it we lose it, it was meant to be abit of fun and a challenge to beat the bookies

Tony2005 May 31st, 2008 22:06

Yes thats how i read it....its costing us nothing...but of course Pkrplaya is just looking after the forumites interests like any of us would do as he rightly said were more of a friends forum then anything else.

Personally i havnt got a problem with this and think its a good idea and i think everyone should be given the benefit until proven otherwise.......

Whatever might have gone on on other forums hopefully wont go on here and im sure everyone just wants this to continue being a fun friendly forum that the members have made it into..




themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 22:12

Pokerplaya
 
i hope u know that that doesnt count as "gives a contribution to the challenge"

when we beat the bookies ull have to do more than that to get ur seat in the mmt 8-P


join in with us and spread ur football knowledge

Pkrplaya May 31st, 2008 22:15

No youve been very good on this forum im talking about the abuse you give on another forum, from past experiences. I didnt expect you to admit any of this, just thought it would be nice to own up and start a clean slate here thats all, as many members come from the other forums, and will know what im talking about. Just couldnt keep quiet now that you might be financially involved with members here. Ive said my piece, like i felt i should. Every one else can make there own minds up as to what they want to do.

themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 22:22

i know who u think i am
 
the person you think i am abuses people on gets banned from every single forum he is ever on

he cant switch it on and off, his arrogance is constant, if i was that person i would be abusing and getting banned here also

there really isnt any point in me trying to explain, the truth sounds so ridiculous im not got going to even bother

you will just havew to see for urself once we have beat the bookies and are playing an stt/mtt with plenty added money

Pkrplaya May 31st, 2008 22:26

there really isnt any point in me trying to explain, the truth sounds so ridiculous im not got going to even bother

That sounds ridiculous :'D
I think ive heard it all before anyway.

Pkrplaya May 31st, 2008 22:36

You trying to get banned from other forum now

Reply with Quote
Any more personal attacks on members and I am sure admin will have no option but to do what most want them to do.

themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 22:40

u got me well and truly...........
 
PUDDLED :h?:

Pkrplaya May 31st, 2008 22:41

LOOOOOOOOOOOL
This look familiar?

with euro 2008 just around the corner who do you guys fancy for the tournament?

i really fancy croatia @ 14/1!

so many markets to choose from, im drooling!

both teams to qualify from their group

group A

i havent decided yet between portugal and c rep @ 2.73 or portugal and switzerland @ 3.94

c rep arent the team they were 4-6 years ago and with switzerland having home advantage i think they could go through with portugal.

the 1st game between switzerland and c rep is crucial with the winners going through, but i think it will be a 1-1 draw

group B

got to be germany and croatia for me @ 1.83, i think both teams will be too strong for poland and austria, poland had a very good qualifying campaign, but germany and croatia are a step above them

group C

really really tough group to predict this, any of 2 these 4 could go through, the bookies are massivly under estimating romania in my opinion, they are a very decent team and had a great qualifying campaign. very crucial game the 1st one v france, my early thoughts are that holland and france will go through @ 4.09

group D

spain and russia for me @ 3.86

spain should comfortably top the group and i think russia are better than greece and sweden

bet365 have group forecast where u pick who will come 1st and 2nd in each group, the minimum odds for picking the 1st and 2nd in each of the 4 groups is 355/1 (thats picking the 2 favs from each group) if u can find the 2 qualifiers from each group you can make a good bit of cash here, if the 2 favs from each group go through thats 355/1

once u pick you're 2 from each group and perm your bets so either can come 1st or 2nd it is a total of 16 bets, so for £16 you are looking at a minimum of £355 returns for finding the 2 qualifiers from each group, got to be worth a punt this bet!!

leading goalscorer

couple of players stand out for me, benzema at 33/1 is a crazy price, but i am not too sure if he is going to play, he never played in the qualifiers, if he starts for france 33/1 must be snapped up at 1/4 odds 1,2,3,4 place, you are getting 8.25 that he finishes in he top 4.

others that stand out are martin petric (croatia) @ 40/1, huntelaar (holland) @ 50/1, klose (germany) @ 9/1 and torress (spain) @ 11/1

longshot is pavlychenko (russia) @ 125/1

its going to be 3 weeks of cracking football and hopefully plenty of profit!
Edited by - betdevil on 31 May 2008 10:50:45 PM

Pkrplaya May 31st, 2008 22:47

Uncanny resemblence from here and other forum
 
3.10 donny............express maite 12/1 e/way........................NOWHERE

4.50 donny............mandurah 8/1 e/way

3.35 goodwood........lady gloria 10/1 e/way............................2ND


3 x £5 e/way doubles and 1 x £5 e/way treble (£40.00 staked)

as long as 2 of the 3 come placed i get my money back!!

all 3 placed returns £266.80

any 2 winners minimum of £534.00

all 3 winners returns of £8406.80.............YES PLEASE!!



show you how its done!

STARTING BANK 120PTS (£2 per point)


5 pts....c rep to beat scotland @ 1.61...............winner 3-1

3pts.....c rep winning at ht @ 2.10

3pts.....over 10 corners @ 2.00...........................winner 12 corners

1pt......c rep to win 1-0 or 2-0 @ 3.12


CLOSING BANK 108PTS
Edited by - betdevil on 30 May 2008 7:48:02 PM
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Pkrplaya May 31st, 2008 22:49

I rest my case
 
only sportsbook in the world where u can bet on

over 0.5 goals, over 1 goal, over 1.5 goals, over 2 goals, over 2.5 goals, over 3 goals, over 3.5 goals

u can do under all these markets too

AH

u can have any team fav or not, -0.5 goals, -1 goal, -1.5 goals, -2 goals, -2.5 goals


when watford were away to ipswich few months back, game straight after ipswich won their first away game

i really fancied watford to win and ipswich lose there 1st home game

i backed watford @ 3.50 and also backed watford -1 goal @ 9/2

watford were 2-0 up b4 ipswich pulled one bk and it finished 2-1

also have by fat better odds than ladjokes, willy hills corals any others

watching holland vs denamrk right now, holland are looking good

1-0 up good goal van nistelrooy

can see them geting through, maybe topping their group

From forum your about to get banned from for abuse after you avoided taking a bet that you offered.

themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 22:49

not really no
 
switzerland wont get out of their group

so whoever wrote that is wrong there, and croatia wont get to the semis let alone win it

and there is no such player as martin petric he is called mladen petric, and he wont be anywhere near top scorer as he hardly ever plays let alone scores


agree with benzema though, 33/1 is a great price

Pkrplaya May 31st, 2008 22:51

Only putting your posts up because you couldnt admit to it, anway welch away, just warning the members as to what you are. clown

themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 22:56

the only post there that is mine is the one u took from this forum and put it up on this forum?????????????

why take a post i wrote here and i say i wrote it elsewhere too when i never??

themanwiththeknow May 31st, 2008 22:59

if u dont want any part of the euro 2008 challenge then dont be part of it

just leave the people who want to take part to it

Pkrplaya May 31st, 2008 23:11

I was happy to leave you to it after my first rant but when you blatently lie to me, its like a red rag to a bull. We all know who u are now and that you will lie about it, the posts show exactly the same style of writing about the same subjects. Ive known from the minute you arrived on this forum and gave you a chance. Im now telling others because money will be involved, and gave you the chance to own up to what i first posted and get it out in the open and start again. All you did was deny it, no more bullchit from you ive had enough.
Its simple

I DONT TRUST YOU AND NEVER WILL. I WONT GET INVOLVED IN YOUR SCAMS, EVERYONE READ THE POSTS AND MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND. CANT SAY FAIRER THAN THAT

And im very sorry for upsetting the calm of the forum and as you all know its not like me, but when something needs saying, i say it.

bennythedip2 May 31st, 2008 23:31

On Ladbrokes old forum, i remember lots of bravado betting between, "mystery" and "ruddock", also "mystery" and "plymlegend" about whose football team would finish higher in the league, the threads went on for months, and to be honest they were boring to me and others, because there was only going to be one result.."Bets being called off" :gh:
Now im not condoning or agreeing with any of those that were involved, and maybe any of these people aren't " themanwiththeknow", but in my opinion they were all betting a loser and really couldn't have hoped to get paid.
It was a open forum that had many people, acting like they were "Rambo" with people saying such thing's as, "I bet you "blah blah blah" and loads of nonsense poker challenges and football challenge bets . The trouble is, once a bet like that is placed verbally on a open forum, your first thought is, "will i get paid if i win:h?: and in reality you know you wont :-C
My thoughts are as to whether anyone here was involved in these betting rows, "well should they have paid or been paid" or, "could they expect to have been paid".............No, not really !!!
I know all about 'gentleman's agreement's' and 'men of honour' and 'my word is my bond' but as i have said that was an open forum, full of "Rambo's" chanting "don't push me" !!.... I feel that if "manwiththeknow" wants to run a competition that he his going to finance for the forum members to enjoy and benefit from...that's great. However, nobody should be asked to to put monies into an event that is controlled by someone, taking that money to put into an account owned by the organiser !!
Finally i would like to thank "Pkaplaya" for bringing the matter to the forum member's attention and over these last months he has been a person i have grown to respect, not just his knowledge of racing and sports but also for the way he conduct's and writes his post's, with great enthusiasm that brings us together as a community:clap:
So if all you guys want to do this football competition fine, as long as nobody has to part with money, i cant see a problem..!!
Finally, please...... no more charity donation's to outside events. o:D..If you want to donate to a charity....I'll give you my bank account details ;) :loveme:

glk guys...........benny

themanwiththeknow June 1st, 2008 00:02

fantastic post
 
as always benny

look i am going to set the record straight once and for all

i know mystery21/laddiesking, he is my brother

i know what he is like and quite frankly he is an arrogant twit at times, when all that went off on ladbrokes forum i was sick of me being accused as him

so thats why i left, as far as i know he was permanantly banned from laddies forum, if he is back as betdevil or whatever i have no knowledge, i havent seen/spoke to im in like 4months

i have been a member here for god knows how long and have never once acted the big man, boasting about this and that, and i have never abused anyone

mystery21/laddesking cannot go to a forum and be nice, he has to act the big man eveywhere hes goes, always has to cause trouble and is alays looking for conflict, that isnt me, we are like chalk and cheese

i didnt want people to know i was his brother as you would automatically think it was me or tarnish us both with the same brush,

pokerplaya you said betdevil was about to be banned again, so no doubt he is causing trouble acting the big man again, its is more than obvious he cannot go to any forum and be nice to anyone, i have been nothing but respectable since i have been here, never boasted about this or that and never challenged anyone to anything, it is quite clear we are 2 different people, if you want to think i am him then fine that is you're perogative, but i will continue to be myself and gaurentee you wont get any conflict or abuse from me

bally73 June 1st, 2008 08:48

i for one am all for inocent until proven guilty i do appreciate playa telling us these things and i do thank theman for coming clean that it was his brother
as for this comp i think it is a cracking idea and as the man hasn't asked for any cash just opinions it can't do any harm
just my thoughts
Lee
by the way the only person who i had a little bit of conflict with has just joined this forum :eek!:

Tony2005 June 1st, 2008 09:05

Were not like some of the other forums...
 
This forum started just over a year ago and i believe we have got to where we are today by attracting members who know how to respect each other and not to be geting into slanging matches, posting insulting threads etc.....These things can be left to the forums who will tolerate that sort of posting and who feel they need those sort of members to keep their forum alive.

Here on TSF we have attracted our members by giving people what they want, which in my opinion is a fun forum to share many common interests but mainly in the world of small betting advice and thoughts.

In the time this forum has been going we have NEVER had to deleate a post for any reason that might be offensive to another member or a guest that may visit the forum. This in itself proves that what this forum started out to achieve has so far been respected.

Pkrplaya has been one of our most respected members since he joined and i know he WOULD NOT post anything on here like what he has done on this thread unless he thought something needed to be brought to the members attention.

Now as Benny has said in another thread most of us are quite aware of what has gone on in regards to another forum but to let that escalate into what it became was down to the owners of that forum.

Now i can only judge by what i read on this forum and as i have said so far its only been good, this is how we want it to continue and how it will do.

Manintheknow has been posting on here for quite sometime now and there has never been one post from him that i have felt needed to be deleated for whatever reason and as i have said i can only judge on what i read.

I think the idea for the footie is good for the forum and to be honest as NO members will be asked to part with any money i cant see where a problem can occur.

I would like to think that all the forumites on here are a little more sensible then some of the members other sites have and will not be taken in by ANYONE who thinks they can scam a few quid by coming on here with quick money making ideas.

So in summing up i think that in my opinion for the time being we should treat every member with the respect they deserve until they do something to lose that respect, if this happens i can assure all members that we will not tolerate any behaviour that will upset other members of this forum and the culprit or culprits will be BANNED immediately.

Anyway lets carry on enjoying the forum and keeping the great community spirit we have built up here.....

Have a good day folks...........

Pkrplaya June 1st, 2008 10:41

I have heard the its my brother line from many of his aliases including laddiesking :h?: If you cant see the lies then or choose to ignore them thats not my problem. Believe it or not i actually find him quite entertaining o:D and personally has not done anything to me. I like the idea of the footy thing although i wont be involved and am happy to leave you all to it. You have been warned, just dont expect to actually get any money from it and it will all go fine. Im not starting a war or anything, as far as im concerned ive said what i wanted to say and will leave it at that, unless im provoked 8-P
Bally i see who you mean as the new member :'D another 1 kicked off forum for his lies, whos next serene? :eek!:
Thanks for respecting my opinionated outburst guys. Just looking out for you all.
Plenty of good bets to be had on the horses today, so i got work to do o:D
Good luck

bennythedip2 June 1st, 2008 12:12

Lighting up the Sky at night !!!
 
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Well with the dust settling and the sheet lightning :storm: from the storm having calmed, it's good to see were getting some positive feed in the thread.
Well done all, the only other thing ive noticed is about our 'latest member' :frog: (fattyandboldy) I spoke to him in a poker game on Laddies last week(he has a new alias there) and invited him here.
Now those of us from Ladbrokes remember him as a ranting tyrant in that forum, and i for one had many an argument with him but i also remember that in most cases it was a couple of other individuals that seemed to set things off. I have spoken to him in private messaging and he was full of compliments about the site and how well it's run, and he speaks highly of you as well guys:'D...

So as Tony(Soprano) has said, in his 'mafia tones':cool:..."no messin or you swim with the fishes"...!!!!

below..TONY...

themanwiththeknow June 1st, 2008 12:36

everyone is entitled to there opinion
 
lets just leave it at that

you have never had any conflict or abuse from me nor will you ever recieve it

hope you all have a good day


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